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>>> paul ryan 's weeks of debate prep have been turned upside down 24 hours from his debate thanks to his old friend mitt romney . romney 's views about abortion would make ryan , who has sponsored 38 antiabortion laws, including one with todd akin , now we know where he stands. listen to this question he answered 24 hours ago.

>> how is the debate prep?

>> it went well.

>> how is your position on abortions and your running mates ?

>> it's unified. our positives haven't changed.

>> what is your position?

>> i'm sure you'll find out in these debates.

>> joining us now, here in new york, jonathan alter , and in rhode island , robert traynham . thank you. i assume paul ryan will never complain will-b a softball question, but second, when do we know where he stands on abortion? when is that supposed to happen?

>> they're going to get down into in on the debate about abortion.

>> he can't answer a reporter's question? he sponsored 38 pieces of legislation --

>> he's on the fly. the reason it's complicated answer for him -- i'm not trying to defend him here, but the reason it's a little complicated is because he'll essentially have to say my views on abortion are not at issue, martha. it's governor romney 's views we're talking about. and i don't want to confuse views, so my sponsorship of all these bills is not relevant to the conversation. then what he's going to do is pivot and start attacking president obama on this question of obama care require, catholic affiliated institutions provide contraception.

>> so basically don't answer the question, just divert?

>> he'll do that.

>> he'll divert?

>> for sure.

>> robert , here is how paul ryan 's 28 2008 opponent described debating him. i'm quoting. it was like nailing jello to the wall. he would just change his story as convenient and make up facts to fit what he was -- what he wanted to say. i mean, joe biden 's really got his work cut out, doesn't he, robert ?

>> i would make the argument joe biden does have his work cut out, regardless of congressman ryan 's previous statements or the previous opponent's statements. there are a lot of democrats out there putting a lot of hopes on vice president biden to knock this out of the park because of the president's lackluster performance a week and a half ago. the question becomes whether or not this is a substantive debate on the real issues at hand. two very smart people , in biden and ryan , and i suspect they'll have a substantive conversation about medicare, about the ryan budget plan, and probably about pro-life issues. it's an open secret that mitt romney has changed his position on abortion --

>> in the last day.

>> congressman ryan is pro life life. it's not going to be about pro-life, it's going to be about the economy.

>> john, let me play for you how romney assessed mr. ryan 's debating skills on tuesday. this is mitt romney . take a listen.

>> i don't know how paul will deal with this debate. obviously, the vice president has done, it's don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his lifetime, experienced debater. this is, i think, paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school . i don't know.

>> he's just trying to lower the expectations as low as they can go, so if ryan does reasonably well, they can convey he's doing better than expected. it's not true.

>> this is a seven-term congressman who does p90x every day, runs marathon --

>> he's debated his opponents many times in wisconsin.

>> what's he talking about?

>> romney knows that. the big question in this campaign is whether it will catch up to him, is he says whatever is convenient, whatever he can get away with saying. whether on something small like whether paul ryan debated his congressional opponents or on something big like his tax cut .

>> indeed. robert , what does paul ryan say when joe bidens, i know you want to privatize social security , you know you want to voucherize medicare and you know you want to vaporize most of the assistance government provides to people of low income . what does paul ryan say in response to those three?

>> what i think he would probably say, vice president, i think you're being disingenuous because people watching the program, people at or near retirement, you're fine. the unfortunate truth is that social security is going bankrupt, even the obama administration will even concede that social security is scheduled to go bankrupt in 2030 or so. so the question becomes, what do we do to fix it for my children and grandchildren? what i propose in my budget plan, which i'm not running away from, is to allow a system that privatizes the system only for a small portion of individuals if you want that situation. but if you don't, you can still continue with the same program. i think that's what congressman ryan needs to say.

>> that's not what the bush proposal was in 2005 that paul ryan championshiped on capitol hill . it was privatization of social security .

>> i remember the bill.

>> if joe biden can't ram that down his throat, that people put their social security money in the stock market and lost at least some of it in --

>> something george bush rejected as an idea. i'm afraid we have to end. thank you.

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